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Student Interest Group in Neurology (SIGN)

Handbook for Applicants to Neurology Residency Programs

The University of Rochester SIGN chapter recognized a need to consolidate advice from faculty and residents about how to most efficiently use time in medical school to learn neurology as well as opinions about the process of applying to residency training programs. As such, the SIGN chapter surveyed faculty and residents at the University of Rochester and compiled the results of the survey into the handbook.

Chapters:

Chapter 1: General Information

Neurology

Neurology is an evolving specialty with tremendous potential for diagnosis and therapies. Patients present with fascinating diseases, providing a constant challenge and a hugely varied experience for a lifetime.

In addition to general adult neurology, there are a number of combined specialties: pediatric (child) neurology, medicine/neurology, movement disorders, neurology/rehabilitation medicine, and neurology/psychiatry. Fellowships in neurology include cerebrovascular, epilepsy, clinical neurophysiology, behavioral neurology, neuromuscular, neuroimmunology, neurologic intensive care, neuroinfectious disease, neuropathology, pain management, sleep, and a few super-specialized fields such as neurootology, experimental therapeutics, occupational neurology, and research.

Applications
As of 2006 match cycle, all neurology residency programs have joined the National Resident Matching Program (NRMP) and will be using the Electronic Residency Application Service (ERAS). Thus, Neurology will no longer be an "early match".

Begin completing your applications in the summer to early fall. You will need to obtain:

  • College transcript
  • Medical school transcript
  • Dean's letter
  • Letters of reference
  • USMLE scores
  • Personal statement
  • Photographs

N.B. It is very important that the applicant apply to PGY-1 (internal medicine) programs at the same time as the Neurology program. Some neurology programs include a PGY-1 year within their program (integrated programs). When making plans to apply and interview at Neurology programs, the applicant should inquire about internship opportunities in the area and apply and interview as required.

Interviews
Interviews begin in October and run through mid-January. You should expect to be interviewed by 2-6 people at each visit, and you will meet the program director and chairperson everywhere. It is best to communicate with each program to get an idea of scheduling requirements. During the 1999 Neurology Match, the average number of program applications per applicant was 17 and the average number of interviews per applicant was 4.8. This seems like a large number of applications and may be skewed by a subset of applicants who send off a very large number of applications.

Programs will invite applicants for interviews based on their submitted credentials, personal statement and letters of reference. The interview and visit to each program is the best opportunity to gather more information; use this opportunity to its fullest. Applicants should prepare for interviews by reading about the programs and have a list of questions ready. Meeting with the housestaff to get their candid impressions of the program is an important part of the interview process.

National Resident Matching Program
Detailed information about the match is available from the National Resident Matching Program (NRMP) website: www.nrmp.org/

Detailed information about the residency application process is available from the Electronic Residency Application Service (ERAS), sponsored by the Association of American Medical Colleges (AAMC) website: www.aamc.org/audienceeras.htm.

Matching Program Timetable
(A more detailed table is available at ERAS: http://www.aamc.org/students/eras/timeline/start.htm )

May/June Request information and applications from training programs of interest. Inquire about each program's typical interview schedule and deadlines for application submission.
Summer Gather letters of recommendation, supportive documentation, and complete applications.
August 15 Applicant registration through ERAS begins at 12:00 noon eastern time.
September 1 Target date for submission of application to ERAS
December 1 Applicant registration deadline; a late fee applies after this date.
Oct/Nov/Dec/Jan Programs conduct interviews
January 15 Rank order list entry begins. Applicants may start entering their rank order lists at 12:00 noon eastern time.
February 21 Rank order list certification deadline.
March 15 NRMP Match. Match results for applicants are posted to the R3 System at 1:00 p.m. eastern time.

The information above was obtained from the NRMP and AAMC websites.

Other Match Information
The Match process in Neurology is generally quite favorable. The percentage of U.S. medical school seniors matching to programs has generally been 95-98% in the past ten years.

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Chapter 2: Electives Useful to the Medical Student/Future Neurologist

Generally, my advice is for students to avoid electives in neurology! At the very least, you should balance neuroscience-oriented electives with electives in non-neurological areas. Remember, you will do at least 3 years of full-time neurology training, during which you will learn the skills you need to be a good general neurologist. Look on your medical school elective time and internship elective time as opportunities to learn more about things outside of neurology.

I would encourage you to think about electives where, for example, a neurologist may be consulted but may not serve as the primary physician. This might include areas where you may not do formal rotations during internship or residency. Options include cardiology, especially ECG interpretation, since you will often care for patients with cardiac disease during your training. Also, neurologists are often consulted for patients who lose consciousness, and cardiac problems are probably the leading cause of syncope. Consider also a rotation in emergency medicine. Many neurologic consultations take place in the ED, and understanding the perspective of the emergency physician when obtaining neurologic consultation may be helpful. It could also provide you with some background on managing neurologic emergencies. Critical care medicine is another useful overlap area with neurology. Many patients in ICUs wind up there because of a primary neurologic disease (e.g., stroke, hemorrhage) or later develop neurologic complications unrelated to their primary diagnosis (e.g., critical care neuropathy, delirium, coma). The best neuro-critical care consult probably comes from a neurologist who understands the basic principles of critical care.

For neuroscience-oriented electives, I would suggest thinking about how you might go back and review basic neuroanatomy. A sound knowledge of neuroanatomy is the basis for accurate localization skills. Possibilities include spending time with Dr. Powers in neuropathology, with special emphasis on the gross brain dissections. Alternatively, depending on the timing, perhaps Dr. Jozefowicz could use your help in the neuroscience lab during the Mind, Brain & Behavior course. Another possibility might be a special elective tailored to your individual interests and background during which you could spend some time reviewing basic neuroscience principles that would be of use to you in your future training. I could imagine such an elective involving, for example, directed readings and lab work under joint mentorship from, say, Dr. Jozefowicz and Dr. O’Banion (although there are undoubtedly many faculty who would welcome the opportunity to mentor you in such an elective).
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Outpatient electives are much more a reflection of what practice is like. Choose a busy practice, perhaps with someone who has recently left academics, or at least has a reputation for teaching. An elective to the National Hospital for Neurology in London will forever alter the way you look at Neurology. I wish I had more exposure to psychiatry, particularly so-called liaison psych. A time working in a reputable lab is useful to get a perspective on the molecular basis of neurologic disease. It will also help you decide whether lab work may be something you want to pursue later, and will guide your choice of residency programs. Choose if possible a lab where there is a national figure working on a particular disease. Follow them from the lab to the clinic.

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I thought cardiology, endocrinology, rheumatology and ED (required here) were all helpful.
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When you choose your electives, do things that you will NOT have time to do again. If you want to have experiences to talk about for a neurology interview, choose related subspecialties such as neurosurgery, pediatrics, psychiatry or any medicine subspecialty.

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There were very few electives available to us in medical school. It was a rather restricted curriculum with the first two years being preclinical and the last two clinical. However, during my last year I did take a course in advanced neuroanatomy for the graduate students. I became interested in neurology in the first year of medical school after the neuroanatomy course. I was intrigued by the instructor and came back later to take a Ph.D. under his tutelage. I am not sure what advice I would give to a medical student now. I don't think it was particularly necessary to take extra neurology beyond what you are getting. However, you get a very good experience in neurology at the University of Rochester. I would guess that at some schools this is not the case, and in that instance, if they do not have elective time, they should do a clinical clerkship in neurology.

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I really don't think it matters what you take in your fourth year. Just make sure you really want to do neurology. You could take some easy outpatient electives or go into a private neurologist’s office to see how things are in "the real world."

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Cardiology was the most helpful elective. Both invasive and noninvasive aspects of cardiology are relevant to neurology, especially to stroke. Immunology/Rheumatology is also very useful. Many of the evolving treatments involve autoimmune diseases. Hematology: have a good grasp on diseases of hypercoaguability.
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You can't get enough anatomy: if you get a chance, take electives in neurosurgery and radiology. Take an elective in neurosurgery where you will learn the discipline-- not just how to scrub in. Don't forget to learn the things that you will never get a chance to learn again. Even if you know you want to do neurology, take the time and put in the energy into learning your other coursework, obviously medicine, but things such as OB as well. Psychiatry and neurology go hand in hand. It's getting harder to differentiate between the two; each has the other as a major comorbidity. Learn them both.

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Orthopedics, given that neurologists need to know the musculoskeletal system to evaluate the neuromuscular system.

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Chapter 3: Appropriate Textbooks, Journals, and/or Other Resources for Medical Students

This is always a tough one, because every individual has their own strengths and weaknesses. I suggest a plan of starting out simply and becoming progressively more refined in your reading. Furthermore, every book or journal has its own strong points. I will try and summarize some of these below.

Books

1. Brief & Introductory

All of the following are (relatively) inexpensive. Neurology for the House Officer has good, basic information that will give you a starting point for common neurologic complaints. It can be read quickly, and fits nicely into a coat pocket or instrument bag. Neurology On Call can help provide some reassurance during those scary first few months when you have suddenly gone from medicine intern to “the” neurologist for the hospital! It is simple, problem oriented, and tells you the first things to think about in urgent situations. The Little Black Book of Neurology by Lerner is good and contains much useful information. It is something you can read in a couple of weeks and get a solid overview of major neurologic syndromes, problems, evaluation, and basic treatment. The problem is it is alphabetical by subject, so when you’re just starting out and don’t yet know the diagnosis, it can be hard to find information. The Handbook of Symptom Oriented Neurology by Olson et. al. is useful in that it provides a symptom based, problem oriented approach to common neurologic complaints. The limitation is that it is not very comprehensive, but it would be a fine way to start reading about neurologic complaints and their evaluation.

2. More Detail, Still Introductory

For a more refined but still introductory approach, I really, really like Practical Neurology edited by Jose Biller. The title says it all. The book deals nicely with common neurologic diseases and the most common treatments. I think every neurology resident should read this book during their first couple of months of residency! A good alternative is Clinical Neurology by Greenberg et. al. This is still in outline format (like Biller) but has more text and more diagrams. (Despite that, Biller is still my personal favorite.)

3. Intermediate

Once you are comfortable with the basics, an absolutely essential book is Localization in Clinical Neurology by Brazis et al. This is a very, very nice book that you can refer to over and over again for clinically oriented reviews of neuroanatomy and how lesions will manifest under different circumstances. When you have advanced somewhat in your training and are doing neurology consults, Neurology and General Medicine by Aminoff is an absolutely outstanding text that talks about neurologic manifestations of non-neurological diseases.

4. Comprehensive

At some point, you will want to get a copy of one of the standard big neurology textbooks. All of these are expensive. Depending on your ethical views, many residents hit up the drug reps for copies of these books. They are Merritt’s Neurology by Rowland, Principles of Neurology by Victor & Ropper, and Neurology in Clinical Practice by Bradley et. al.

Merritt’s is nice because it is concise and clear with lots of tables. A paperback handbook was recently published which is also helpful, but is mostly just an outline of the larger book with little accompanying text. The limitation I find with Merritt’s is that you almost have to know the diagnosis before you can look anything up. Of course, if you do already know the diagnosis and need to read about the disease, this is a great resource.

Principles of Neurology is a highly regarded text by very seasoned clinicians. Its major strength is that it is very much problem oriented, so you look up a general problem (e.g., "weakness”) and you get a huge discussion of the many things that this can signify. The limitation, of course, is that you get huge chunks of information! Sometimes you get too much. I also find the writing style somewhat “stuffy” and old fashioned, but that’s a personal matter that may not be a problem for others. They recently published a handbook to this text that looks pretty good. It limits itself to the major problems one encounters, and has more text than the Merritt’s handbook.

Neurology in Clinical Practice is an outstanding book, and my personal favorite among the big tomes. Do not make the mistake I did for years: I was put off by the fact that it is two big, heavy volumes. It looks very imposing, but is the most user friendly neurology book I have found! In my opinion, it combines the strengths of both Merritt’s and Principles without any of the limitations. Each volume is broken down into nicely digestible chapters that are well written, well illustrated, and that have plenty of good summary tables, charts, and flow diagrams. The first volume deals mainly with how to approach various complaints and establish a good differential diagnosis. The second volume is organized around disease processes. This book has a handbook with it, too, but I have not read it. There is also a small workbook of practice questions with annotated answers that could be useful for in-service exams or the neurology boards, but I have not used that book either. I would advise residents to get this book sometime toward the beginning of their neurology residency, and set a reading schedule (maybe with some other residents) with a goal of trying to read the book during three years of residency. That’s a very reasonable goal, I think, and would provide an excellent background.

Journals

There are lots of great journals out there, and not enough time to read them. When starting out in neurology, much of your journal reading will be guided by your upper level residents and attendings. You will learn what journals publish articles on topics of interest to you.

Also, some journals will probably be supplied to you during residency by pharmaceutical companies. Some of these are quite good. Journals that were given to me free were Seminars in Neurology, The Neurologist, and Continuum. Each of these is excellent, and I recommend reading them or at least hanging on to them if they are given to you. Continuum may initially seem way too detailed for you as you begin your training, but don’t throw it out! Continuum is absolute gold when you are studying for your neurology boards at the end of residency.

I am really a big fan of The New England Journal of Medicine. To me, the review articles alone are worth the subscription price. These often focus on important neurological topics. You also get a sense of how all of medicine is developing, even if you don’t read the non-neurology research articles in depth.

Neurology, which is produced and edited here at the U of R by our chairman, Dr. Griggs, is the flagship journal of our field. You can get a subscription by joining the American Academy of Neurology, and it is worth it. Again, some of the research articles won’t be of use to you early on, but there is at least one good review article per issue, and they also publish practice guidelines for various diseases. You probably won’t read every issue cover-to-cover, but you should at least scan it.

Archives of Neurology is another of my favorites, and, to my eye, the most visually appealing of the neurology journals. Good research articles as well as good reviews.

Neurologic Clinics is a great resource for in-depth discussions of particular issues. Probably too much detail early on in your neurology career, but keep it in mind if you need an in-depth review.

My suggestion when you are starting out is to scan the New England Journal, Neurology, and Archives on a regular basis. Pay particular attention to the review articles, as they tend to focus on common neurologic entities and are usually written by leading authorities in the field.

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Dr. Jozefowicz’s syllabi are very good. Know your basic anatomy-based differential diagnoses for common neurological conditions (localize!). Journals: New England Journal of Medicine is the best general medicine journal. Its clinical correlation series has many cases relevant to neurology. The Neurology journal (Editor: Griggs, our chairman) is a good source to see directions research is going in neurology. Just skim the abstracts, or dive in only when a topic intrigues you. The website lets you browse articles since 1996 by topic. Archives of Neurology has some good reviews of basic topics. B.) Two good introductory neuro texts are: (i) Practical Neurology by Jose Biller - superbly organized presentation of topics organized first by symptom, then by treatment category; (ii) Neurological Differential Diagnosis by Patten -- superbly written, with skillful illustrations and useful case studies. The two standard advanced texts are, of course, Adams and Victor and Merritt’s. A relative newcomer that many neurology residents consult is Neurology in Clinical Practice by Bradley et. al, out of U.C.S.F. The standard neuroradiology text is Diagnostic Neuroradiology by Anne Osborne. If this intrigues you, do a 1-2 week elective in the neuroradiology reading room.

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It would also be worthwhile to make relevant connections within your clinical experiences throughout medical school with nervous system connections. I believe that general texts in neurology would be more helpful than specific journals. Relative to journals, a walkthrough the new and recent journal displays in the Miner Library would provide you with a sense of background of the broad scope of literature related to the nervous system and clinical neurology. Similarly, browsing in the history of medicine section would provide perspectives concerning the origin and development of the specialty.

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I think as medical students you should stick with the basics and maybe buy a copy of Harrison’s. Use the neurology section on that to learn. Emedicine.com on the web is great for articles as well. You should only read journals and such after you know the basics.

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I think Merritt’s textbook of neurology is a good starting textbook because it is easy to read and not too detailed but gives a good overview of each subject. Journals are too advanced at this point since you are still trying to learn the basics. I do often pull review articles from the NEJM as they are aimed at the generalist physician. Resident rates are pretty good for this journal and there is online access.

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Book: Neurology and Neurosurgery Illustrated is a great start. Journals: Am. Fam. Physician and NEJM CPC’s are great reviews. Neurology is a very practical source.

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It is all down to anatomy. If you don’t know your anatomy, neurology will remain a mystery. I would avoid “pure” neuroanatomy texts, which lack any clinical correlation. By some distance, the text of choice is by Patton. Fabulous drawings, which make you understand the anatomical basis for the clinical exam. Not that good for discussions on diseases but that can wait. There is an excellent CD Rom on neuroanatomy by Netter.

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Students should read texts and one journal such as NEJM.

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Read the basics. Forget the esoteric at this stage of the game. Merritt’s, Victor and Adams, Kandel and Schwartz. The latter gives many neuroscience underpinnings that will always be relevant. If you read a journal, read basic reviews. The science and forefront things change so rapidly, that by the time you get to and through residency, anything “hot” will be in the textbooks. Unless it was “not.”

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I think students, as do faculty, have difficulty prioritizing. There is so much information available that it sometimes seems impossible to pick and choose. I think it is important that they get their fundamentals. You can’t be a good neurologist without a very good basic knowledge of neuroanatomy and neurophysiology. So I’d spend my time on the basics.

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Reading should be patient directed (even if it is not “your” patient.) You have a chance to participate in their care. When you do read the details are more likely to recall the information when it is “real.” Start with textbook, then review articles, then move on from there.

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Chapter 4: Essential and Undesirable Qualities of a Neurology Residency Program

General. Any good neurology program should always be trying to strike a balance, weighing residents seeing enough patients to develop good clinical skills against the need to have adequate time to read, study, sleep, and live a life. I do not know of any neurology program that achieves this balance perfectly. The real questions are, how hard are their on-going efforts to try and maintain this equilibrium, and how close do they come?

Also, keep in mind that residency training is just plain hard work. No matter how good the program, as a resident you never get enough sleep; the best you can hope for is adequate sleep. Also, there is no way to remove stress. As a resident, you are constantly on the hot seat because you have responsibility for patients’ welfare, but you’re still learning and your knowledge of how to take care of patients is, by definition, incomplete (otherwise you wouldn’t be a resident). So no matter where you go, the residents will be tired, and they will be stressed. It is just a matter of degree. A good program has residents who are tired but not exhausted, challenged but not overwhelmed, and who can be happy and offer a good endorsement of the program despite the difficulties any resident faces during training.

Read Kenneth Iserson’s Getting Into a Residency, but take each point with a grain of salt. Not everything in this book applies to every person, but overall Iserson offers good advice and good general rules for how to organize your thinking about residency interviews.

Evaluating the program. The only people that can really tell you about the training program are the residents. Even the most honest program director with the best of intentions can only tell you what he or she hopes the training program is like. Only the residents know for sure. Therefore, I would look for the training program where the residents seem happiest overall.

You should be given ample time alone with at least several of the residents, no faculty. Dinner before or after your interviews is a common venue when you can get the scoop on the program. If faculty are always nearby, that could be a red flag: is there something they don’t want the residents to tell you?

Residents certainly have their own idiosyncrasies, too, and you should bear that in mind. One particularly cranky resident should not necessarily taint your view of the entire program. Conversely, one especially sunny disposition may be happy no matter how bad things get. Consensus is the key. Also, be sure and question why anyone (resident, program director, faculty) says what they do. Negative comment, ask, “Why do you say that?” Positive comment, ask, “Why do you think that is so?” Remember, although you are being scrutinized, you should also be scrutinizing them.

Insist on meeting the PGY-2 residents at programs you are seriously considering. Those residents will be your senior residents when you start your neurology residency, and as such are just as important as the seniors you are likely to meet when you interview. If you can’t meet the PGY-2’s, it may be a red flag. Don’t judge the PGY-2’s based on knowledge, because they are just starting out. Rather, see whether you think you would be comfortable with them being your immediate supervisor.

Different personalities work better in different programs. “Know thyself” is a good rule. For example, a program with a huge neuro-critical care population may seem more exciting and “sexy” than a more traditional program, but ask yourself whether you really want to put in the hours required to care for critically ill patients. On the other hand, if you live for that adrenaline rush, you may not be cut out for a program where there are no critically ill patients.

When considering your personality, consider also the community in which the program is located. Some residents and faculty will tell you this is not important, because you won’t have that much time off as a resident. I disagree. The fact that your time will be at a premium is all the more reason to make sure that the place where you are living has the kinds of things you enjoy doing during your limited free time. If you are an avid skier, for example, a residency in Los Angeles, Miami, or Houston is probably not for you. If you enjoy being with family, relocating across the country is probably not wise. If you enjoy hiking in the woods, New York City and other huge urban areas is probably not where you should be looking.

On the other hand, some people use residency as an opportunity to experience life in some very different part of the country. If you have always lived in the northeast, maybe you want to spend a few years in the southwest, for example. Each person is different. You just have to reflect on what is right for you.

Look also for balance in the program. Are the major subspecialties of neurology represented (stroke, neuromuscular, pediatrics, epilepsy, oncology, headache, general neurology, movement disorders, dementia/behavior, geriatrics, neuroradiology, MS/demyelinating disease, rehab)? Ideally, you should also interact to some degree with neurologists in private practice so you get some idea of what that lifestyle is like. Not every program offers everything, and 1 or 2 deficiencies may be overlooked, but be suspicious where there are multiple deficiencies. Such a program need not necessarily be ruled out, but bears very careful examination before you should go there. Also, be sure that one subdiscipline doesn’t dominate to the exclusion of other areas. Remember, your goal at the end of 3 years is to be a good general neurologist. If you decide to subspecialize after that, you can get additional time in a focused area of concentrated study. In addition, you need at least some exposure to subdisciplines of neurology in order to make an intelligent choice about whether to do fellowship training after residency.

For your preliminary year in medicine, you also need a place with a great Internal Medicine program. A lot of neurology entails general medicine, so you want to learn as much internal medicine as you can during internship. The rules for evaluating such programs are pretty much the same as evaluating a neurology program.

Inquire about didactic sessions at programs. There should be some protected time for residents each day for learning in journal clubs, formal lectures, etc. Inquire specifically about protected time. Many places will tell you, “Oh, yes, we have lectures every day,” but unless the residents are protected, they may be constantly called to the ED, ICU, the floor, etc., to see patients. Also ask how the protection is in place. For example, it’s not just that you are “allowed” to go to the lecture…and then you are “allowed” to stay two hours later that night to finish your work. The issue is that you are free to go to the lecture and that the additional time added to the end of your work day is not so onerous that you can still read, study, and spend time with your family. (Remember, no matter what anyone tells you, it is not a sin to desire a life outside of medicine. You should work hard, take good care of your patients, make sacrifices when necessary, and stay late when you need to, but you do not sign off from the rest of the world just to be a doctor).

Ask about the call schedule, who is in charge of it, how flexible it is, etc. The question is not just how often you are on call, but also how busy a typical call night is and how acutely ill the patients are. For example, 3 ICU admissions in one night can be grueling if they are truly in critical condition. On the other hand, 8 floor admissions with straightforward problems may still leave time for a reasonable amount of sleep. Ask the residents about the quality of the emergency department where they are, since many of your consults will originate from the ED. If they call neurology just when they don’t want to really think about a case, that’s not good. Also ask about who will be your back up when you are on call. Do you have a senior resident in-house with you? Is there an attending with whom you can discuss patients over the phone? How readily will an attending, fellow, or upper level resident come in during the night if you get overwhelmed or need help with a case?

Other sources of information. Find residents here at Strong who went to medical school in places you are interested in applying to. Even if they’re not in neurology, they probably did a rotation as a student, and they can give you insight into personalities and culture of the neurology program at their old schools, as well as the communities in which they are located.

Faculty can be of help, too, either inside or outside neurology. Some may have trained at institutions where you want to go, and they can tell you how neurology is viewed there. Within neurology, some of the more senior faculty in particular may have experience with or knowledge of residency programs around the country. Dr. Jozefowicz is a great resource in this regard, as is Dr. Griggs. They both travel a lot, know many people in different places, and see lots of different departments. Remember, though, that even Dr. J. or Dr. Griggs can’t tell you what the program is really like as of this moment. Things change, and to get the “inside story,” you’ll have to talk to the residents.

There are regulations about what kinds of things neurology programs should do. Read the latest regulations by the American Council on Graduate Medical Education at their web site, www.acgme.org. Make sure that programs in which you are interested are in compliance with the ACGME. If they are not, don’t even go there. Don’t think about it. Just don’t. It’s a mistake.

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A good residency program will depend on what you want out of it. Broadly they segregate in those with strong basic science faculty and those with strong clinical emphasis. It is rare to find a program with both. If a student anticipates a career at the bench, they will naturally be drawn to programs with this emphasis. All programs will advertise themselves as “clinical”; many are not. They are headed by faculty with little interest or experience in patient care. A key issue is: are the residents happy. Try and seek out recent graduates from the program, as well as medical students from that school - if there are a lot applying to their own program, chances are that it is reasonably good (also tells you that your own chances of matching may be slim if the program is too incestuous). Talk to younger faculty at the U of R who have come from other programs. They will be open with you.

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The key to a good neurology department is strong general neurology exposure. If you get that experience, anything you want to specialize in becomes easy. When you look at the program, evaluate the faculty, what is their standing, nationally or even internationally. They will be your mentors beyond your training. Make sure there is a balance between the inpatient and outpatient experience. Does the program allow you to grow as a neurologist and give you increasing responsibility: independence managing your patients and teaching medical students, interns and residents. How much elective time is available and what can you do with that time? Explore further subspecialties, increase neurodiagnostic skills, research if your are interested in an academic career. Is the residency director responsive to resident concerns? Make sure the program does not cover too many hospitals so that you are stretched to your limits. It is preferential to find a program that has intern coverage, because you would have already done your internship and do not want to do it again. The location should be something to consider also. You will not be spending your whole life in the hospital. Family life and hobbies are a consideration. Most places are looking for people who are willing and able to work hard, be team players and have initiative.

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Essential qualities: happy residents; large enough so that you can live with the call schedule; If you are interested in research: established research labs in your prospective field(s) of interest so you do not have to re-invent the wheel; If you are interested in clinical neurology: a sufficient mix of outpatient experience; neurologists on staff that sound like they not only know neurology, but they are interested in teaching it and are good at this. Undesirable: unhappy residents; absence of any else of the above; significant part of the neurology staff in flux (especially the chairman or residency director).

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I suppose it depends on what is important to you. I felt that feeling comfortable with the residents was very important. I interviewed at programs where the residents did not seem happy or interested or were over stressed and I ranked them lower. Second would be to find a program that makes residency education a priority. This is the time to learn neurology whether you plan an academic or private practice career. Ask about board pass rates, structured activities for resident education, do the residents actually attend these conferences or are they too busy answering pages and running around. Make sure there is adequate patient contact and a good variety of patients. Also make sure that the faculty are also diverse; you want most of the specialties well represented to maximize your training.

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I personally think that any program that crams all of the call in the first year is doing a disservice to the residents. You learn different things at different stages of your training and I think you get more out of having it spread over two years. Having medicine interns rotate is very helpful, i.e, you don’t want to be an intern twice! so avoid programs that don’t have medicine interns.

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Avoid departments with only one or two foci. Aim for departments that have subspecialists in at least four of the major neurology subcomponents: epilepsy, neuromuscular, neuroimmunology, movement, neuroophthalmology, neurootolgy, neurooncology, headache, stroke, child neurology, autonomic nervous system, infectious disease.

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Pick a place where you will work the hardest but still enjoy it. Experience is the best teacher. Pick a place where you like the people you work with and feel like you fit in. You will spend too much time at work to dislike the people you work with. It helps to like the location as well. Pick a place with a good enough reputation to open doors for you—fellowship or otherwise. My estimate is about ¼ of neurology programs should be closed.

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In regard to residency applications, I think the qualities of a residency program are, first of all, a very heavy exposure to patient care. My old chief said that if you can read a journal or see a patient, go see a patient and you will learn more. Also, I think it is important in the outpatient setting that you have continuity of care over a number of years with your patients. This gives you a feeling of the evolution of many chronic diseases. I don’t know if there are any particular undesirable aspects to a neurology program, but I think clinics where you have brief exposure to patients and not continuity of care are bad.

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Try to apply to a variety of types of programs (big, small, etc.) to help you decide what you like and don’t like. Ask lots of questions—what kind of patients do they get in their continuity clinic? what kind of contact do the residents have with attendings? who is your backup if you run into a problem on call?

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It is essential that opportunities exist for patient care in all settings, particularly the ambulatory setting. Sufficient attending supervision for purposes of confirmation of a resident’s observations and consultation when necessary regarding diagnosis and management are important. As is the case in making medical school decisions the best information regarding your residency experience is derived by meeting residents participating in a program. The opportunities within the program for clinical and/or laboratory research should be explored depending on one’s interest. It is also important to assess the amount of educational activity incorporated each week as part of the busy schedule of the house officer.

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Obviously, you need to find the program that fits your needs best. Some things to keep in mind when looking at programs are:

  • Number of residents (range is 2 at Dartmouth to 10 at MGH-Brigham)
  • Is there any specialty well known at that institution and number of staff in each subspecialty
  • Fellowship training: Generally, a better program will keep about half of its residents for further training. Some clinical neurophysiology fellowships simply prepare people for private practice.
  • Any well known individuals at that institution?
  • Amount of neurosurgery, psychiatry, and rehabilitation training required
  • What percentage of graduates eventually end up in academic vs. private practice?
  • Is there a serious research requirement?
  • How well do the neurologists get along with physicians in the Internal Medicine and Neurosurgery Departments?
  • All the other things to look for in residencies (affiliated hospitals, patient populations, outpatient time, other specialties of the hospital, call, location, why residents leave, significant other satisfaction etc.)

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Chapter 5: Student Preparation for Neurology Residency

You will already have done a lot of work as a student. The training that you get here at the U of R is really excellent, so you have a great foundation on which to build. Round out your experience with a balanced selection of non-neurology oriented electives (see above), but treat yourself to a good neuro elective if there’s something in particular you want to brush up on.

After that, find good preliminary internal medicine and neurology programs that fit you. Your requirements will be different from every other person. Making this decision is just as personal as your choice in college to go to medical school, so know what kinds of things you want out of yourself and a program.

Aside from these very basic comments, there’s nothing special you need to do. You will be prepared with adequate knowledge, so don’t worry about that. As for the mechanics of being an intern/resident, you can’t prepare in advance, but don’t worry. We all survived it, and you will too!

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Do enough neurology that you are sure this is the career you wish to pursue. Get to know the faculty and residents of the program at your medical school.

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Graduate from UR medical school with Ralph Jozefowicz as your teacher.

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Preparation: Establish that you are interested in neurology. Then see above under coursework.

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As much exposure to patients as you can muster. Follow a resident on call.

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Again, I think it is a good basic knowledge of the fundamentals. That is why I think the double helix program is good as you go back to some of the basic sciences in the third and, eventually, in the fourth year.

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Chapter 6: Neurology Programs: Top Picks by Current Faculty and Residents

For the most part, my comments will necessarily be limited to institutions where I have interviewed or where I have acquaintances who can give me reliable information.

I know this may sound really hokey, but I swear it’s my honest opinion right now: I would very strongly consider the U of R as a top choice! This program, like all programs, has its strengths and its weaknesses, but overall I think the training is quite good. I have been impressed with the residents with whom I have interacted. I know Dr. Jozefowicz and have a great deal of respect for him, and I know that he takes the needs of the residents seriously. When problems arise, it appears to me that he tries earnestly to reach a fair solution.

Indiana University in Indianapolis would be another good choice. I interviewed there in 1997 and was very impressed with the program. They seem to have good balance overall, though I did get the sense that the residents might have been overworked.

The University of Cincinnati has a small but very solid program.

I did not interview at Wake Forest or UNC-Chapel Hill but I trained with residents who did their medical school and internships there. My impression is that both have very strong programs.

The Mayo Clinic (Rochester) has a very strong program with good training, but I myself found the culture a bit too formal for my tastes.

Vanderbilt seemed quite good when I interviewed there, and I think one would get very good training there.

Emory in Atlanta has a very strong program, but I understand that the residents are very, very busy.

The University of Florida at Gainesville is also good, but I would worry that there might not be enough of a balance in the program. Cognition and Behavior is so strong there it might overshadow other areas.

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I’m a midwesterner so I am biased in that respect. You will see most people here are East coast biased. The important thing to remember is that really good neurology programs are difficult to find. I still think the top five programs are: Rochester, Mayo Clinic, Cleveland clinic, Michigan, Virginia (That was the order of my rank list). I think others that are very good include Indiana, Utah (definitely worth checking out), Wake Forest, Penn, and Columbia. I think it is good to get a lot of opinions on this because many people feel differently. I think you find a program you know is good then you decide if you want to live there.

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UR - I could have gone to many in the Northeast (where I would like to be for family reasons), but I still would choose here.

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I do not know the programs now well enough to comment in depth. I like U of R. I also liked Michigan which has good qualities in a similar vein.

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My top 5 were as follows: University of Rochester, University of Michigan, Mayo clinic, University of Iowa, University of Virginia. I specifically wanted to stay out of the big cities so that this was a priority for me. There are excellent programs in SF, Boston, Philly, etc., so ask about them. The programs I chose were medium sized, had diverse faculty, had a good variety of patients with a good referral area and I liked the residents.

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Top choices: Columbia, UR, UPenn (great program, good faculty, good exposure to both everyday and esoterica), UCSF (what’s not to like about San Francisco), Duke, University of Chicago, Mass General, Cornell. You may notice that I didn’t put down the Mayo Clinic. Others would disagree. My feeling is that it is a great place for neurology, but not necessarily residency training. Not enough bread and butter neuro to balance the rare entities; a somewhat unreal environment.

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I personally think the program at the University of Rochester is excellent. The University of Iowa is also an excellent program. However, there are many good programs scattered throughout the country. I think that anyone going out to look at residencies has an embarrassment of riches, as you probably can’t make a mistake with any of the better programs. It is important to talk to the residents in training at that program and see what they think of it. Also, you have to be aware of any program that does not fill the number of spots.

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Chapter 7: Other Advice

Please offer any other advice to medical students:

Make sure you have some fun too!

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It doesn’t matter what courses you take—just have fun. For your application, know why you want to do neurology. Make it show. Neurology is great fun. If you don’t agree, choose another residency.

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